Rangers Debates 5

19 Dec 2025 12:20:54
Is it true that the winners of the league go straight into the CL next season. If true this will be a 40 million jackpot and probably the last time a SPL team qualify automatically. This makes the recruitment in Jan all that more important. IMO this will be the one of the worst Celtic teams we will face and they undoubtedly will strengthen in Jan so it's up to the board and recruitment team to give us a better standard of player going into the new year.

This league is there to be won if we think they are imploding just now wait til we win the league and trouser the CL bounty.

19 Dec 2025 12:33:38
Bt, But only Rangers mate, why I believe funds will be available in January.

19 Dec 2025 12:39:14
Only true for us I think due to our total of points we have, I them or hertz win the league they would still have qualifiers to play, someone else may be able to confirm this as I'm not 100% sure but think I read that somewhere.

19 Dec 2025 12:40:27
To get this 40 million pot u need to win all 8 off your group games.

19 Dec 2025 12:51:54
Only if we win it, apparently.

19 Dec 2025 13:01:15
Goingfor56 most likely we do, not 100% mate, coefficient points.

19 Dec 2025 13:19:22
Yeah I thought that mystar 👍.

19 Dec 2025 15:50:59
Imagine hearts do win the league! They'll get ate alive in the chamipons league man.

19 Dec 2025 16:46:34
Wouldn't think Hearts would make the champions league Franco.

19 Dec 2025 16:57:55
If the country who wins this year's ECL has already qualified through their national league there is a space created. this goes to a club in a country outside the top 10 country coefficients. At the moment we seem to be top of that group of clubs by.750 points.

the nearest is Olympiacos who are 29th in ECL table this year. so it would be good for us to win at least one of the games we have left to keep above them just in case. not 100% sure but how I understood it last year.

19 Dec 2025 19:08:43
John, you maybe right, but only Rangers have the points needed to exclude us from having to play qualifiers.

20 Dec 2025 15:59:07
So would we Franco. We got humiliated a couple of year ago with a far better team than we have now.

20 Dec 2025 17:42:42
Maybe because we played King and Sands at cb's, our team was riddled with injuries that season coldo, all about the cash anyway.

20 Dec 2025 17:43:52
Plus it could be a different team next season.

20 Dec 2025 21:14:04
You always have an excuse My star in the sky. Surely Sands coming from a higher level like the MLS should have been a stand out for Rangers?

Could you tell me who was injured for the Champions league games?

I just checked the line ups for all the games and only Goldson missed two games. All our other key players were in every Match day squad for the Champions League games. Hardly riddled with injuries.

20 Dec 2025 22:28:38
Not an excuse it's a simple fact, clearly you never looked coldo and just don't know, go look again, Goldson wasn't the only cb, why are you even bothered with anything Rangers when your mob is a mess right now, and where is Sands playing now?

20 Dec 2025 22:39:54
Coldo and what about Souttar and Davies being injured alongside Goldson? Isn't that three cb's out injured? why we needed to play a 17 cb and dcm.

20 Dec 2025 23:29:10
Coldo I forgot to say, a Rangers fan wouldn't need a check as they would know Goldson wasn't the only cb missing through injury.

21 Dec 2025 01:13:10
Goldson played in 4 champions league group games.

Davies played in 3 champions league group games and was on the bench for another 2 games. So in 5 match day squads in total

We played 6 group games.

Hardly riddled with injuries.

21 Dec 2025 08:58:21
Sands and King played one champions league match together as CB's.

You have went on another rant as you always do and again its you that does not know the facts.

We did have the odd injury but we were not riddled with injuries as you claim and the majority of our Key Players from that squad were in every match day squad.

We were humiliated because although we performed well in the EL we were nowhere near the required standard for the Champions League.

Souttar was not a key player or a first pick in that squad, squad player at best.

Please check your facts before making excuses.

21 Dec 2025 09:17:50
Listen Coldo, so Goldson missed 2 Davies missed 3 Souttar missed all 6, three cb's missing, you ain't a Rangers fan, just a sad individual looking for a argument, glad you done more checking, what about your team unable quality against the big boys from Kazakhstan? you must be fuming if Rangers win we league we most likely get in your club do not.

21 Dec 2025 09:21:43
our CBs that year were Goldson, Davies, Souttar, Helander and the young lad King. for the ECL games we player:
Sands and Goldson vs Ajax
Sands, Goldson and Lundstrum vs Napoli
King, Goldson and Davies vs Liverpool
Goldson and Davies vs Liverpool (h)
Davies and King vs Napoli
King and Sands vs Ajax

so in only two of those games did we have what might be our two experienced defenders in the starting line up together, and against Liverpool Goldson got injured. so perhaps not riddled with injuries but not playing our first choice central defence in the games for whatever reason there was.

21 Dec 2025 09:23:13
oh and Souttar was injured for whole of campaign. as I say first choice defence not available and second choice not always available so left to play Sands (midfield) and King (17yo) as first choice.

21 Dec 2025 09:27:00
Qualify.

21 Dec 2025 15:49:21
The same two with the same excuses.

21 Dec 2025 16:07:13
Or the truth silly Coldo.

22 Dec 2025 10:10:11
No its definitely not truth.

18 Dec 2025 10:46:47
We really shouldn't gloat but when they drop points like that it does put a smile on my face. Some of their misses were laughable, but they should have been 4 nil up at half time. If we can win on Sunday we will have to fight for everything and the title race is well and truly on.

18 Dec 2025 17:15:11
BT I agree it is human nature to laugh at their misfortune. My worry is we start as fans to believe that we have the league won as if we don then it ends badly for the manager normally. let's accept gritty 1-0 wins from us and as many losses as possible to laugh over from them. then see where we are at end of season.

19 Dec 2025 06:50:21
This is what rivals do BT, I'm enjoying the moment.

19 Dec 2025 12:00:58
Need to enjoy the moment unfortunately they are still a head of us but a win on Sunday and the dropping points and we will be on them. I just hope they don't change managers and it doesn't click for him. We need to beat hearts.

19 Dec 2025 13:53:59
My worry is with all there injuries they still an excellent 45mins in them, we don't, yet! If they get players back and rectify this it could be difficult. Reading little snippets that they will spend around 15/20 mil in January, but will they really with a suspect manager at the helm.

No idea how much we'll spend, but we should go all out with the lure of going straight into cl group stage. I suppose we should just concentrate on ourselves and hope our league form continues and there's does to 🙏.

19 Dec 2025 15:20:11
That is mate, worry about us Boy blue, a month ago cl wouldn't be mentioned, correct players in January and you just never know.

19 Dec 2025 18:35:20
Star I still don't like thinking like that. let's build for second half of season and again for next season. if we win then that would be a real bonus imo. if we don't let's just look for how we will progress next season with the January buys bedded in another 6 months.

19 Dec 2025 21:12:53
Angus just fell if we don't win it this year we will still be successful under Rohl, it's still unlikely but not as much as it was a month ago, I'm so impressed with the job he's doing mate.

20 Dec 2025 19:05:13
Star I agree but don't want that 'pressure' to come from fans and if we don't win it the negativity starts. I think that was the start of getting rid of Clement. don't want a repeat with Rohl. let us just see where we end up without getting ahead of ourselves.

18 Dec 2025 08:14:52
Sunday's game is a must win, be a very difficult game, but hopefully we can put hearts back in their box and we can go on a wee run and really get into this title race.

18 Dec 2025 10:10:01
bigtrfc that will be the 17th must win game of the season in the league so far 😉.

18 Dec 2025 14:33:18
It's absolutely massive. Win and we're right back in it. Lose and it's back to 12 points which I think is probably just too much. Have a feeling it will be a draw though which is not a bad result tbh.

18 Dec 2025 17:18:27
Kaiser I agree re winning bringing us back close tot eh top 2 but I am not sure if it would be too big a gap if we lose. I still don't think they have a big enough squad and haven't had a spate of injuries yet whereas we have a lot of key players out.


even if it is a win for us I don't think they would be out of it either. It would be good if there was a title race at least this year and whatever happens give our players experience of being in one which will help for next season anyway.

18 Dec 2025 20:06:41
We still need to play hearts twice and they play Celtic twice so there's points going to be dropped all round. A draw isn't the worst and if we lose i still won't count us out of it. We have seen this a few times aberdeen and hearts leading for a while then fall away as the pressure ramps up.

Get to january no more than 6 behind anyone would have accepted a few weeks ago, anything else is a bonus until we can recruit again.

18 Dec 2025 22:29:00
Must not lose I'd say, 9 behind should be 6 after our game in hand, still 20 games remaining after our game against Hearts.

18 Dec 2025 23:16:26
It certainly makes for an exciting weekend. Just hope we can scrape through.

18 Dec 2025 00:09:35
Dominik Livakovic anyone think we could attract him and if so could we afford him?

Not played in 6 months and has a bit of a circus going on between fener and girona whole not wanting back to Zagreb.

Remember him at the euros I thought he was keeper of the tournament.

Celtic either tried to sign him or were heavily linked. Think he went for €7m (euros so maybe £5.5m)

He needs a club and we want a new keeper, if it's an upgrade.

18 Dec 2025 09:47:30
Stevie, how did you do with the bookies in the Celtic game?

18 Dec 2025 13:48:56
Mark, I never got anything mate. The 2-1 I had on had a draw at half time. Think I touched that by accident mate. Had been hoping the 3-1 or 3-2 came in instead mate but no joy, what about u mate?

18 Dec 2025 18:43:15
Stevie he is a very good goalkeeper although I am slightly concerned at his refusal to play for a club he agreed to go on loan to.

18 Dec 2025 19:12:18
Stevie, I haven't placed a bet in about 30 years, pal.
I read the posts on here about the odds and find it interesting what you guys win.

18 Dec 2025 22:12:45
Great keeper Stevie mate but we have 10 positions I'd like to fill before we looked at GK.

19 Dec 2025 00:02:12
Wishy I agree we have more things to worry about right now but a keeper like that isn't availible every window. It's worth looking into I feel.

Aphe, I do find it rather bemusing what has actually happened here, not wanting to play for 3 different clubs.

I'd love to know more of the facts.

Mark. The old saying is true, only bet what u can afford to lose mate, if u do decide to bet, always remember that saying pal.

19 Dec 2025 17:37:34
Stevie wasn't sure about the name so asked AI. the answer said he was a good shot stopper, good at penalties but inconsistent with crosses and his distribution could be improved. as I say didn't know much but the pros and cons seem to be Butland-esque.

17 Dec 2025 23:14:06
Im just going to say it. If we beat hearts on Sunday we win the league.

17 Dec 2025 23:35:38
😂😂😂 aye thw jammiest bas**** team in history league if we pull ourselves back into the race.

18 Dec 2025 00:17:39
Im just gawny say. Hope your right. Cany see it. Our squad dusnae have enough dig to go the distance. January will be pivotal if we can get it right.

18 Dec 2025 22:17:56
Dizzee; step away from the bar 😉.

17 Dec 2025 22:47:29
Massive 3 points needed this weekend and please Rangers a strong January window
56 anyone? 😁
🎵DANNY Danny Rohl🎵.

17 Dec 2025 22:06:15
Noticed you haven't posted for a few days Fork. Hope you are well mate.

17 Dec 2025 22:39:25
Noticed that.
I hope he's alright.

17 Dec 2025 23:05:39
Think he was posting 2 days ago guys 👍.

17 Dec 2025 23:35:59
Fork was talking to me yesterday I'm sure.

16 Dec 2025 22:32:30
Just watched some old videos and came across Gabriel Amato. What a player he was. Possibly the most skilful player we have had. On his day he was unstoppable.

16 Dec 2025 23:53:48
He was my favourite for 2 years he was with us.
McCoist once wrote in his Sunday mail column that if he had the pace of Ronaldo he'd be the best in the world

Tend to agree.

17 Dec 2025 01:06:31
Laudeup Mols better

Amato was good but very inconsistent that's why he pretty much failed overall at the club.

17 Dec 2025 07:04:31
Mols for me too.

17 Dec 2025 17:00:55
Mols could turn a defender in a phone box👌👌.

17 Dec 2025 18:45:46
Both fantastic players, just the men to excite the fans, sadly today's player more likely to kick it back to the keeper than have the balls to take someone on.

17 Dec 2025 21:54:11
We had some great players back in the day.

17 Dec 2025 23:36:15
Imo Mols would have went on to play for Barcelona or Real Madrid if he didn't get that injury.
An absolute scandal as I think oli khan meant that as a foul. He obviously didn't mean to injure him but he meant the foul as it happened.

18 Dec 2025 01:04:49
Watp62, aye while making a phone call.

16 Dec 2025 19:10:49
Looking ahead to next season i'd be seriously looking for a goalkeeper someone who can command his box and comes of his line. Butland is a good shotstopper but I think we need better.

16 Dec 2025 22:23:31
OWS so does the new better keeper have to be able to stop shots as well? be interesting to compare the goals he has prevented by stopping shots and those he has been part of conceding by not commanding his box and comes off his line.

17 Dec 2025 01:07:28
Keepers don't really come for crosses anymore. Defendera need to be better.

17 Dec 2025 01:08:22
Butland is an average to good keeper we've had way better but hard to find them for reasonable price now.

17 Dec 2025 06:50:49
Butland is up there in terms of shot stoppers but he doesn't have the grit and aggression that the likes of McGregor and Goram had.

17 Dec 2025 07:05:50
Not a priority area for me. i'd start with what's in front of him.

17 Dec 2025 08:04:43
Come on Angus obviously he needs to be good at stopping shots. But that's only one aspect of a good GK. Without wishing to hammer him as I do think he's decent I also do agree we need better. He's a poor communicator and doesn't marshall his defence in front of him who have often been caught out of position. He doesn't control his area well which was particularly seen last season as teams targeted him with balls into 6 yrd box and we conceded lots of set pieces. And his distribution is extremely poor and has led to loads of chances and goals.

If he was better at the other aspects perhaps many of those shots could be prevented in the 1st place. A bit like a defender being praised for a last gasp saving tackle but forgetting it was his mistake that led to the chance to begin with. Last season he made huge errors in just about every game and granted while his form has been better this season again those weaknesses in his game are still there.

17 Dec 2025 15:58:02
I hope we have someone lined up in case we get an offer for Butland but can't see another first team keeper coming in when Butland is probably one of the highest paid players in the team.

17 Dec 2025 16:19:20
Too many keepers punch the ball these days and hat catching balls through crosses or saves. One that does the lot we can't afford. McGregor weakness was coming from crosses also.

17 Dec 2025 17:29:23
Kaiser I expect my GK to stop shots as that is the most obvious route to goal. There are very few GKs who come for crosses and tbh very few of the legends we speak about did.
I also expect my defence to marshal themselves and to blame the GK for not organising them is patently ridiculous. and to quote Storm forth the night how do you know he isn't communicating as you can't hear him above crowd.
so are you saying that every shot that a keeper saves is down to them not organising the defence in front of him.

does that mean we don't need a coach at all as the keeper should do it 😂😂🙈.
also please don't look at the current English no1 GK teams stats then for his club.
he was poorer last year but has got his form back this year.
tbh I don't care if he stays or not as people at the club make that decision but some of the arguments on whether he is good or not just make me belly laugh.

17 Dec 2025 19:05:20
One way or another we will be looking at GK's. I am sure I read Kelly is OOC this summer on here, plus he will want to secure a spot for World Cup so as someone else has said a loan might be put in place, would we bring two in at same time? Not sure.